Vineland Ave Revitalization

Pictures of neighbors and Beautification Committee coming out for the Vineland Cleanup. We can do it with your help.
Pictures of neighbors and Beautification Committee coming out for the Vineland Cleanup. We can do it with your help.
I originally commented on an article Daly Glass Leaves NoHo; Property Sold by Arin Mikailian and thought this should be on the board here for more of a soundoff for others to comment on too. I'm hoping besides the problems here we can come up with some exciting and clever solutions to this area. 

For the most part Vineland Avenue from Magnolia to Camarillo is one big eyesore. Most of the buildings on the Eastside of the street are closed, used as warehouses, pot or massage shops and homeless sleeping. 
Recently a Senior Housing unit went in down the street which dresses up one block. The entire street needs a makeover. Trees and grass in the median strip are dying or dead along with the grass. The East side of the street needs tree wells and businesses should re-surface their buildings for new tenants. Right now it looks something out of woodstock! The Westside of the street which is where a lush garden of plants once stood on the Vineland walkway is full of dead plants, and dog poop, lack of a better word right now. The walkway is dark and dangerous at night. I'd like to see Edison install lighting up and down this walkway for safety, then pull out the bushes close to Vineland so we can once again bring parking back into this area. We have a major problem with parking here, this would at least free up some much needed spaces for us. Put parking meters in and use that money to keep the area clean and safe. Install a traffic light at Vineland and Hesby, a site where many accidents have happened over the years. I have been working on this eyesore for over 12 years now which started with Tom LaBonge's Office and now Paul Krekorian's. With little help from Southern CA Edison who owns the property. If it wasn't for the Mid-Town North Hollywood Beautification Committee it would be overgrown and full of graffiti. It's time that Paul Krekorian focused his time on this neglected area, especially if they plan on putting a bike path there. We have an unsightly sign on Lankershim welcoming people to NoHo that doesn't even light up anymore. I suggest we begin by creating a more welcoming artsy sign and erect it at the beginning of Vineland Avenue along with the clean-up of this area. It's ripe for business and cheaper than Magnolia and Lankershim. I know people have more ideas, let's bring them out for this area and I'll present them to our Councilman and the Neighborhood Council. We really need to stand up and take back our area. Who's with me! 

Do not take a Lane out on Lankershim for bikes January 21, 2014 at 09:49 PM
David went by here yeseterday and I see a big differen the walk way is clean and looks nice the the only eyesore is were carsJR and were Ralphs and were the check cash place. I am also was on Vineland.
Armando Del Valle January 22, 2014 at 12:04 AM
I'm surprised this whole area itself is not getting the attention it really deserves by local businesses and from people not speaking out to make this look a whole lot better. A few businesses that would be great on the business graveyard on Vineland would be a GameStop, music shop or any other retail business that we would not have to go miles to get to. People like the idea of useful businesses that are closer to their homes. I do agree with you about the walkway as well. It's too dark and you can't see anything at night. The use of street lights would be perfect to make the walkway look visible. Also the bushes at the foot of that walkway need to go. Too much brush makes it hard to see for others to see what is going on. A street light would be perfect on Vineland and Hesby. Lankershim has one on the same street. It will definitely reduce the amount of accidents that happen in that intersection since traffic flow on Vineland is really heavy all the time. These are really good ideas David and I support everything you mentioned in this article. Sure its not going to happen all at once, but we need change in the area and it will be for the better.
NoHo Native January 22, 2014 at 02:51 AM
As a resident of this specific area, I am thrilled that there are no businesses right now. We finally have parking on our *RESIDENTIAL* blocks. When SoCal Tech and Lotus Vegan were there, we NEVER had parking and since there are so many apartments, we could never get the unanimous signatures to apply to be permit only. And that horrible, noisy pallet business...ugh. The quiet is lovely. Now, that being said yes it would be okay to have responsible *QUIET* businesses on Vineland, and I do miss the food from Lotus Vegan, even though because of them the parking situation was a nightmare. But a busy retail storefront would make us residents absolutely miserable. As for a light at the Hesby intersection, yes, there are accidents but a light would make the flow of traffic really suck and I'm so tired of all the throughways being hampered by stop signs and traffic lights. I think maybe a flashing red light coming from the west side of Hesby might be better, since that's always where the accidents originate. ALWAYS.
mzjuniper January 22, 2014 at 10:18 AM
Theyvshould bull doze the buildings and make a parking lot. The buildings are a mess and the owners are not motivated to rent them. It's going to take alot more than just "putting" a local buisness in there. There are building codes and permits that make these buildings unrentable and unusable. I would live to see some original noho small businesses go into these locations with some help from the city.
Armando Del Valle January 22, 2014 at 11:00 AM
A lot of motivation does rely on location and possible clientele. Only problem is that that whole business graveyard tend to be full of the homeless which makes it hard for businesses to take the area seriously plus the no parking. Its going to take a lot of public opinion to see what the city and us as residents can do to see that this area can get taken care of.
David Keesey January 22, 2014 at 01:02 PM
This is an area that our Councilman Paul Krekorian needs to address for a beautification project. This is entrance to NoHo Arts District, come on! Paul's office received a $100,000 beautification grant that NBC Universal gave to our district to clean it up. Where is this money going? Questions!!!
Tristen Ngo January 22, 2014 at 03:08 PM
I like the idea of another NoHo sign to go over Vineland. It's not like NoHo is limited to Lankershim, but the sign gives that impression. It could be something more simple yet classy...dare I say it, similar to the Canoga Park gateway signs. One thing I hear often and is very frustrating is limiting beautification to south of Magnolia. We need it all the way to Oxnard St.
David Keesey January 22, 2014 at 04:42 PM
Actually Tristen our boundary runs to Vanowen Street, which should get the same about of care as NoHo area. There should be signs erected on both ends of the district welcoming people to North Hollywood. North Hollywood already has such a bad name and reputation. Let's color it up a bit.
LABornAndRaised January 22, 2014 at 07:41 PM
In terms of what I think is within Krekorian's control would be planting new trees on the median where many have been removed already. Also planting more trees on along Vineland going north from Magnolia to Oxnard (at least to start). Gotta start somewhere. Across from the high school is still some industrial which could use some creeping ivy growing on that aluminum siding fence or something to spruce it up a bit.
Do not take a Lane out on Lankershim for bikes January 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM
I like to clearly some things up the NOHo arts district runs camarilo all the way up to Lankershim and Vineland all the Way down toCamarilo.
Do not take a Lane out on Lankershim for bikes January 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM
The Midtown Neiborhood Council district runs all the way to Vanowen street from Camerlio.
Joseph Shore-Goss January 23, 2014 at 02:47 PM
David Keesey has stated ; "North Hollywood already has such a bad name and reputation. Let's color it up a bit." Actually North Hollywood has a great name. It is home to one of the Largest theatre districts in the country second only to NY. It has trendy restaurants and quaint shops. yes there is work to be done to make improvements but every neighborhood can always use improvement. Let us celebrate who we are as north Hollywood and continue to make it a vibrant and welcoming community.
Do not take a Lane out on Lankershim for bikes January 23, 2014 at 03:15 PM
Thank you Joseph, I ,could not agree with you more that is why we need people like you on Patch. Joseph know any who would like to run in Disrict FIve against David Keesy in the reisdent rep would be great please tell them to sigh up or an one of your freinds know some.
David Keesey January 23, 2014 at 03:46 PM
Hey Joseph, yes as you know being on the board that there are parts which include NoHo Arts District, which is a small pocket around a more neglected area that is vibrant. My point was to bring this NoHo Arts feel to most of the rest of the North Hollywood area which has a reputation of gangs and rundown neighborhoods. That is why various communities have broken away from the city of North Hollywood, just as they have with Van Nuys. Most of the focus continues to be this pocket, we need to spread our focus further up the street to Vanowen. You drive from Camarillo Street, then at Burbank Street the energy, feel and look changes. The problem we have now with NoHo is the rents have skyrocketed to where many of the businesses aren't able to stay afloat and must move. Magnolia just past EAT Restaurant is a prime example of this happening. Now many of those store fronts are for lease. It's going to take people like you Joseph and me along with many others on the council to bring change throughout the area. If you are interested, we'd love to have you attend the Beautification Committee meeting which is held on the last Wednesday of the month at 7:00pm at the North Hollywood Police Station's Community Room. With everyone's help we can certainly create that change. I certainly hope our friend Michael decides to run as a Business member, he would be an incredible asset to the council and North Hollywood. Thanks for the comment.
Do not take a Lane out on Lankershim for bikes January 23, 2014 at 03:54 PM
David, there are bussiness Eat on Mangnolia you have e cighed store plus you a messuge papolar and much more Plus that noodle p[lace is supposed open so I saw worked get done in the inside so before you say oh all the bussiness leven NOHO that is not always the casxe we have two new bussiness that just open up on Lankershim.
Armando Del Valle January 23, 2014 at 03:58 PM
They come in but they never last. The reason why is because the rent for those buildings are too high. The noodle shop was supposed to open last summer and nothing just my has been done to that place yet.
Bill Wentz January 23, 2014 at 07:04 PM
Maybe this area would be nicer if more literate people lived here.
Armando Del Valle January 23, 2014 at 07:28 PM
Just realized a typo in my last comment. :P Bill: That's hilarious.
mzjuniper January 23, 2014 at 08:01 PM
They dont last because theyare not providing what the community wants to buy. We are an arts community. The buildings are filled with dancers most of them under 21 who are not interested in a chain burger joint or a confused soul food chain. They dont smoke e-cigarettes or buy baby clothes or supe up their honda or buy glass. . . The key is providing a service or product that ppl want to spend money on. If you do that, the cost of rent is not is not an obstacle.
Jean Jeunet January 23, 2014 at 08:16 PM
Krekorian's office is offering $10K to each neighborhood council for beautification. http://cd2news.tumblr.com/post/73547361796/ncbeautifcation
Do not take a Lane out on Lankershim for bikes January 23, 2014 at 08:21 PM
Yes but that noopdle place is supposed open soon. There are more then just 21 year old dance on this streach. saw work getted done on Noodle palce so to me that me they will be open so.
Stacey G January 24, 2014 at 04:50 PM
It would be nice to see streetlights and businesses that are open at night. It's a scary place to walk even just at sunset.
Do not take a Lane out on Lankershim for bikes January 24, 2014 at 07:58 PM
It is not that scary they just need to open some night bussiness.
Joseph Shore-Goss January 28, 2014 at 12:37 PM
David; again I say yes there are areas that need improvement but do not trash talk North Hollywood. The neighborhood council does what it can and will continue to do so. that is why In my neighborhood we are working on making a North Hollywood garden district. With pocket parks, water reclamation, improved streets and paths for the community. Unfortunately, these things don't just happen overnight. They take planning committees, education and town hall meetings. They take every department of the city working together. It takes research, impact studies, cost analysis and Money! I am sure it will happen I just not sure I iwll see it! have to be realistic!
Lightnapper January 28, 2014 at 05:54 PM
1978 moved to N. Holly. Place was a virtual dump, but cheap enough for a writer, and if you weren't Banging-- safe enough. Eventually Magnolia Blvd. between Cahuenga and Vineland was saturated with enough LAPD resources that at least the Ho's and the Slingers were abated somewhat. Prosecuting the motels also helped. Built a gross of apt. and fancy loft spaces; area still sucking egg, ugly & unsafe. Vineland between Sherman Way and the 101 Freeway still the same, sans a few new consumer establishments. Dirty...rundown...dangerous. Smart business people sold-out and left for cleaner pastures, and the trend continues. Cahuenga between Universal and Victory-- same ole same ole-- Clanton (C-14) still rules the Oxnard-Vineland-Burbank corridor-- La eMe was there before 78; they're still there-- shootin' and scootin'. One doggie park in 36 years-- sometimes dark-- no community garden-- 20 years and waiting-- a few power-line nurseries, otherwise the same ole' PIT. Lankershim environs-- only between Camarillo and Burbank has there been any significant change-- and that took endless years of debate. They call it No-Ho, and getting that consumer oriented area up and running was worse than pulling teeth without Wild Turkey and a medical marijuana card. Otherwise, Lankershim is business as usual, and that business north of Burbank Blvd. is grit...grime...and crime. South-- still looks the same, excluding Ventura between Cahuenga and Vineland. But hey, in a hipster, gentrified two or three square block area you can slam a few overpriced beers; ditto on the food, perhaps even walk or ride a bike...get jiggy with it and take the Metro to somewhere and “Still Believe.” Burbank Blvd. from Clyborne to Whitsett-- nothing much has changed. A few stores left...a few moved in...a bar here...kosher there, change the name of a supermarket or eatery; throw in a massage parlor or two-- otherwise it looks almost identical to 1978. What's the Bottom Line? It's a city run horse & pony show to keep the eternally hopeful—and Newbies-- salivating for better times and a better quality of life--and paying taxes and giving up their precious time for non-compensation as they (mediocre career politico) clink to the bank, double-dip, and rise up the food chain to greener pastures in Sacramento and Washington-- and then come back again when they’re termed out to feed at the City Pig Trough one more time before they retire elsewhere, mostly out-of-state or upstate. Been there; done that. Now listening to ya’ll harping on the same 1978 issues. The one change that has been constant is the changing of the name North Hollywood. What was once a 56 sq. mi. LAPD patrol area is still patrolled as such—more or less-- but it has been renamed into different sectors in the hope that this will be enough smoke-n-mirrors to quell “flight fears.” I’ve seen the area gradually change and then rapidly change to a different demographic. Is that a bad thing? Not necessarily, especially if you speak Spanish and can utilize the labor base. Basically, the name change was primarily Real Estate driven, but as one drives around, one knows that it is all still North Hollywood. You can banner the streets all you want--$10,000 will buy a pretty fair amount of printed cloth--but if it smells like a skunk…well, what else is there to say? In conclusion....the realistic comment was apropos as was the literate one. Beer Me…and the call in a Superhero to deliver me a Hoagie, extra Mayo-- hold the mustard.


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