UPDATE: Man Shot by LAPD Did Not Have a Gun

An Altadena man was gunned down by officers Sunday in North Hollywood.

A man shot and killed by officers in North Hollywood over the weekend was not carrying a weapon, as initially reported by a witness, police investigators said Tuesday.

Meanwhile, the coroner's office today identified the man as Moises de la Torre, 25, of Altadena, who was pronounced dead at the scene.

According to Officer Norma Eisenman of the Los Angeles Police Department's Media Relations section, de la Torre was shot around 7:35 p.m. Sunday at Vineland Avenue and Archwood Street, where police were sent on a report of a man with a gun.

"They encountered the suspect in the street and there was an officer- involved shooting," Eisenman said.

This afternoon, investigators from the LAPD's Force Investigation Division, which examines officer-involved shootings, said no gun was found despite the initial call.

On that day, a woman was attempting to park her car when a man approached her and allegedly threatened to kill her. The woman reported she saw the man reach into a bag and thought he was arming himself with a gun to act on his threat. She sped away, and called police to report a man with a gun in the area, the investigators said.

Patrol officers located the suspect standing in the southbound traffic lanes. He was facing away from the officers, still holding the bag which the woman had assumed contained the gun, according to the LAPD.

The officers ordered him to drop the bag, but he ignored the commands and then advanced on the officers, repeatedly threatening to kill them, according to the LAPD. He was shot after he continued to advance on the officers and pulled his hand from the bag he was carrying, the department's statement says.

The conclusions and narrative of the Force Investigation Division are preliminary, police said, and mark the beginning of a probe that will eventually be reviewed by the Police Commission and District Attorney's Office.

Bill Wentz February 27, 2013 at 12:03 AM
He probably looked like Chris Dorner.
DCraig February 27, 2013 at 04:52 AM
Just another LAPD murder. No one will be punished. The cops know the courts will back them up. REMOVE POLICE IMMUNITY. Make cops just as responsible for using deady force as all us citizens.
E.M. Fredric February 27, 2013 at 05:54 AM
Well... this is new...
Stephanie Morales February 27, 2013 at 07:13 AM
Lies! He never charged at them or said a word to them. They shot an innocent young man.
JAGR February 27, 2013 at 07:15 AM
Cops aren't psychics....nor do they have x ray vision...i wonder if the naysayers would have done anything different....doubt it...if someone was threatening to kill me and advanced on me with his hand coming out of a bag, right after trying to rob or car jack someone... i would have shot him too...Everyone wants to make it home to their families...this man just made some really bad choices that cost him his life...the cops aren't to blame here...the dead guy is...God rest his soul...
Tatiana baca February 27, 2013 at 07:20 AM
I hope justice is in our favor this was not fare what they did to you I hope they can never sleep knowing they did this to you. We look at these so called police officers and think they will protect and serve but instead we get them gunning down someone and ask questions later!!!!!!!!! It's things like this that all police departments should really take the time and effort to look in to who they hire and how they train them cause anyone can be next......... A great friend, loving brother and wonderful dad you where and you will be missed we love you Moises may u rest in heaven and till we me again with all our hearts Tatiana and Michael from Altadena
Nino February 27, 2013 at 04:18 PM
Take your friging hand out of the bag drop to the ground. Why should a police officer put his life in danger for you. Your nothing. Just an other excuse for a bad day for all of the lawabiding folks out there. Go home watch TV. or crawl into whatever space you call home.Get out of the street, your holding up traffic. Serve what? a dip S. get gone.
john sullivan February 27, 2013 at 06:06 PM
A police officer like anyone else is subject to the law. If a shooting is unjustified then the police officer should be subjec to prosecution. The only justification for police to shoot is self defense or defense of others. That is the rule for everyone no just police. If these police were not in objectively reasonable fear for their lives then its unjustified homicide.
Frank Giron February 27, 2013 at 07:19 PM
This LAPD thing is getting out of hands Im a Law abiding citizen but everytime i read something like this and I see the abuse of authority the less that I trust the police I come from a country that the abuse of authority took the people to a civil war remember the rain start with a drop!
Joel Robbins February 27, 2013 at 08:43 PM
Let's not exhonerate the woman who made the initial call. She called 911 and reported a "man with a gun." That is what the police were responding to when they arrrived on the scene.
Daniel February 27, 2013 at 09:48 PM
Moises was one of my best friends, he was like a brother to me. No way would Moises do anything like this. Those cops are just trying to cover up they're asses!! God will find justice for the de la torre family. I miss you already Moises, you were a awesome person and friend, you will never be forgotten. I will help Peter and your family with whatever I can. Your boy Dan the man.
Bill Wentz February 28, 2013 at 10:45 PM
I think the cops were pretty justified in this one. The guy was threatening them and acting like he had a gun. He could have done anything to avoid getting shot but it seems like that's what he wanted. If he really did have a gun, he could have easily shot somebody through his bag. I'm glad this scum is off the streets.
Ridd Lore March 02, 2013 at 03:20 AM
He had a black plastic bag from the market. Not a canvas bag. Not something one would conceal a weapon in. Just heard from his family.
Ridd Lore March 02, 2013 at 03:32 AM
Just a theory... The woman who made the initial call was parking her car. She almost backed into him, maybe he got upset holding his black plastic bag of chips or drink from the market. Words were exchanged and the angry driver called the police and said what she said.
Ridd Lore March 02, 2013 at 03:48 AM
Just a thought. A more logical one. If she was parking her car maybe she almost hit him and he told her to watch where she was going but maybe not so nicely. She most likely almost hit him and he yelled at her she yelled back. She gets upset and calls the police. I have seen people park their cars maybe did not see someone they yelled and cursed to let them know they are there. They driver apologizes and go bout their way. Some people choose to call the police after they get cursed out, not the first time won't be the last. I think if someone was trying to rob or car jack her she would have been robbed or car jacked. The man would not be walking down the street with a small black plastic bag eating chips.


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