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'Working Groups' to Gather Feedback on Bike Lanes

Backgrounds from dedicated cyclists and business owners will come together in a series of meetings.

Stakeholders from a variety of perspectives and professions will soon be brought together as working groups to provide input on proposed North Hollywood bike lanes.

In recent months, views have clashed between supporters of having bike lanes on Lankershim Boulevard in the NoHo Arts District at the cost of losing one northbound lane and those, worried about traffic and safety, that think streets like Vineland Avenue are more viable candidates.

L.A. City Councilman Paul Krekorian's office is working on organizing the meetings.

"Some people will be from the bicycle community, business members and neighborhood council members," said Jeremy Oberstein, communications director for the councilman.

The Mid-Town NoHo Neighborhood Council said it would host a town hall on bike lanes, but a big gathering like that likely won't take place until a presentation is completed comprised of findings from the working groups, Oberstein said.

He added there is no tally of how many times the working groups would meet, how big they would be and if they would be invitation only.

Oberstein said an announcement on meeting dates should be made in the coming weeks.

Anyone interested in being part of a working group can e-mail councilmember.krekorian@lacity.org.

Bob Peppermuller March 14, 2013 at 05:48 PM
What the biking coalition saw last night was push back from the community. They are not perfect in their demands and must work with the community to achieve a reasonable comprise on where to put bike lanes.
Douglas John March 14, 2013 at 06:08 PM
Bob, we have not been making demands, but presenting what we feel is the best option. What we saw last night was push back to a lot of miss-information being given to the business community. One of the big issues that Toyota of North Hollywood had was that they thought the center turn lane on Lankerhsim was going to be removed along with parking spaces. This is absolutely not true and I presented the board with sections of the EIR that were pertinent to Lankershim Blvd. which clearly show that neither of these two issues are true. We do want to have an open discussion with the public and businesses and I urge anyone who has issues or questions to please contact the Los Angeles County Bike Coalition.
Dennis Hindman March 14, 2013 at 09:36 PM
Last night, for an hour, I observed peak PM traffic on Lankershim Blvd where it intersects Vineland Ave. Every northbound vehicle that was in line (and then some) got through the first green light cycle. Putting in bike lanes will not take away any parking for businesses. It only makes it slower for northbound drivers that are likely returning home during peak PM hours. If you are a pedestrian and want to walk on Lankershim Blvd to a business, or the subway station north or south of this intersection, you are discouraged from doing so as there is no signals, or crosswalks either on the westside, or eastside of Lankershim Blvd. You would have to turn around and walk back some ways if you are on the sidewalk on the westside, or cross the street and then back again. Now, drivers want to ensure that most people who would be willing to ride a bicycle in a bike lane to either subway station on Lankershim Blvd are discouraged from doing this. There are only two streets that connect to the Universal subway station, Lankershim Blvd and Campo De Cahuenga. Putting bike lanes on Vineland Ave instead of Lankershim Blvd would mean that a person riding south on Vineland Ave would then turn left into mixed traffic on busy Ventura Blvd, then turn left again onto Campo De Cahuenga and ride up an incline over the freeway to reach this subway station. This effectively limits riding a bicycle to this subway station to a very small percentage of the adult population that is traffic tolerant.
Dennis Hindman March 14, 2013 at 09:59 PM
The transportation problem on Lankershim Blvd is that there is a fixed amount of space for traveling along this street and there are too many cars using it during peak hours. Pedestrians, transit users and bicycles are not the cause of this congestion, too many people choosing to drive is the reason for this. The obvious way to get more people moving along this corridor is to encourage more walking to businesses or to the subway stations, and to make it more attractive to bicycle to businesses or the subway stations by increasing the level of safety for riding. Instead, people are determined to keep encouraging people to make driving their first choice by making it difficult to walk or ride a bicycle anywhere, even though there is no more room for more cars during peak hours.
Stephanie March 14, 2013 at 10:17 PM
There simply are not as many businesses on Vineland as there are on Lankershim. Even if they put a bike lane on Vineland, people are still going to ride their bikes on and to Lankershim because that is where the majority of the action is. So why in the world would they put a bike lane where it isn't as useful? The point of having a bike is so you DON'T have to drive and park your car blocks away. Who is going to lock their bike on Vineland and walk to Lankershim? I have a car and I can't tell you the number of times I have tried to get to that area to go to a business or restaurant and given up because I can't find a place to park. If that area is so congested with cars, wouldn't a bike lane alleviate some of that car traffic? But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe people would rather just drive and suck it up.
Laura March 14, 2013 at 10:28 PM
I'm a homeowner in the area. I don't own a bicycle. I would rather see Lankershim become more of a people-oriented neighborhood stretch than simply a north-south thoroughfare for cars. I drive on Lankershim myself. Traffic patterns get altered from time to time. As a driver I will adjust. As a pedestrian I'd like to see life on the sidewalks, not just in the traffic lanes. I'd rather see bicyclists sharing the road safely than not at all. And I'm not interested in having them shuttled off to Vineland to do it. I look forward to seeing bikes chained up outside Lankershim stores and restaurants where their riders are spending money. And since we won't be losing any parking, this would not be at the expense of drivers patronizing those establishments as well.
Matthew March 15, 2013 at 02:24 AM
Dear Douglas John, Yes you have been make demainds at the meetings. How dare you attack BOb and the rest of your broad members you are in out sider and a bully . The bussiness commintes need to be informed . They got no information from DOT or the Los Angeles County Bike Coalition that was true. I think you should take Vineland Ave or go home.
Frank Mihelcic March 15, 2013 at 04:28 PM
Matthew I am a member of the Midtown North Hollywood Neighborhood Concil Planning committee. I have been to all the Planning committee meeting and the NC board meeting concerning the Bike lane. You need to do your research. The LA bike Coalition has not presented any false information at any of the the meetings.
Frank Mihelcic March 15, 2013 at 05:50 PM
Hello Bob I value and respect your opinions on a range of topics, in this case though you present the La Bike Coalition as an outsider to the community. Many of the people present at the planning and board meeting that spoke in favor of the bike lane were residents and business owners in the north Hollywood area as well as being associated with the LA Bike Coalition. The planning committee and the board placed the bike lane topic on their agendas to get public comment. At those meetings a variety of opinions were expressed on the effects of a proposed bike lane on Lankershim blvd. by a variety of individuals and groups. In November a member of the LA Bike coalition came to and gave a presentation to inform the Midtown North Hollywood Neighborhood Council about the proposed Lankershim bike at their month board meeting. Board members have been aware of the bike land since November; it's recorded in the board meeting minutes. I do not understand why the bike coalition was singled out as not working eighth the community. I also do not understand why the Midtown North Hollywood Neighborhood Council waited until last Saturday to hand out flyers informing businesses and individuals about the bike lane.
Rick March 15, 2013 at 05:56 PM
The #1 goal of a bike lane is to reduce injuries or death for cyclists that are currently mixing with traffic. Cyclist will continue to ride on Lankershim to get to the subway stations and local businesses, regardless of whether or not the lane is installed. We can't prevent cyclists from riding on Lankershim. We can prevent them from being injured or killed. The question boils down to minutes of vehicle delay vs reducing bicyclist injury and death. How we decide will speak volumes about the community we are living in.
Jonathan Zimmerman March 15, 2013 at 09:50 PM
This is not really about bike lanes, or losing a lane of traffic. This is about calming traffic and making NoHo more liveable for pedestrians, shoppers, residents and bicycle users. If traffic is calmer it's good for all of us and will encourage more traffic into local stores and venues. And it will be safer for all of us. Since the Midtown HoNo meeting last month, I have been observing Lankershim Blvd. Most of the traffic seems to be through commuter traffic. I'm sure many of them are using Lankershim to avoid delays on the 170 Freeway by using Lankershim as a corridor from the 134 to points North and I completely understand why they do so. I drive a car, too. Delays on the 170 are routinely 20 minutes, or more, so Lankershim is a good alternative for them. If bike lanes are installed, the estimate is Lankershim travel time at peak hours will increase by less than two minutes. So a driver choosing Lankershim over the 170 may be delayed by 2 minutes, but they're still saving 18 minutes or more. Traffic will calm down and will be safer for all of us, including bike riders. It's win-win. Nobody loses, everyone gains. What's the problem?
Matthew March 15, 2013 at 11:35 PM
Frank, The bike group has lied a lot . They have never told the truth . On the pettion it says bike lanes on Lankershim but it dose not say taking a lane out. To me that would be not tell the truth.
Alek Bartrosouf March 20, 2013 at 08:14 AM
Laura, could you contact me? Alek at alek@la-bike.org or 213 629 2142 - we would love to have you help with our efforts in Noho. Thanks!
larry April 12, 2013 at 03:07 PM
Vineland would be the route to use for the car traffic because of its width and fewer signals. Vineland could be timed for 40 mph all the way to Ventura Blvd making it the desired route for most commuter traffic. Lankershim has now become the center of No Ho village and now needs to be given bike lanes and pedestrian crossing and the traffic needs to slow down to make it safe as it is now becoming a destination area as in Old Town Pasadena. Parking does not need to suffer if some of the median and left hand turn lanes are rethought out and a new street design is made by the engineers of the LADOT I also believe the slower traffic on Lankershim would also be a benefit to all the retail establishments as slower traffic allows otherwise speeding commuters to take a chance to observe the new and established business's

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